Curse

Turkey Baster · Feb 06, 2012, 03:58 AM // 03:58

When I really think hard about it, I'll never go for Legendary Vanquisher or any of the PvP titles besides Zaishen and Gladiator, possibly Hero. A game is meant to be played and enjoyed, how you do that is really your business. I shouldn't have made a big deal, rolled a Ritualist and said "I can't get the title, I'm Canthan, who cares". Even the good suggestions that were implemented took a bit of time, feedback, and interest.

Coast · Feb 06, 2012, 10:16 AM // 10:16

This feels like I've seen it all before, oh ye I remember:
when ldoa and r3 survivor were not possible to legally gain on 1character, i wonder if that ever got changed... wait a sec... yes it got changed since it was unfair towards some characters. Looks like we are on that same ship again, how long till it sinks?

MithranArkanere · Feb 06, 2012, 12:33 PM // 12:33

They didn't make it so it was possible in one character, but so it was possible to retry without making a new character every time.

With LDoA, you don't need to 'retry' if you fail. You accumulate points at your own pace, and the only way to miss it is leaving pre-Searing, if you miss it, you just make another character and don't leave. There's very clear warnings before leaving if you can read.
With the old survivor, if you died, that's it, you must make another character.

Leaving pre can't be compared to dying. Dying is much more likely to happen, because lag hits happen.

Olle · Feb 06, 2012, 12:40 PM // 12:40

"Once we leave, there will be no turning back"

Coast · Feb 06, 2012, 12:54 PM // 12:54

but old characters are left out...

lets wait another 6years till they realise their mistake

gremlin · Feb 10, 2012, 05:17 PM // 17:17

The removal of the need to death level this title was one of the best things anet ever did.
I mean honestly can anyone be serious about a title called Legendary defender of Ascalon obtained by such a method.

Tell us oh great hero what mighty deeds did you perform to be granted this title.
Well you see I found some weak charr took my armour off and let them kill me again and again till they became mighty charr, then I killed them, by repeating this for hours at a time I became the great hero you see before you.

Ayuhmii Shanbwa · Feb 10, 2012, 06:47 PM // 18:47

i'd like to return there with my rit, just to play with charr, but for LDoA? nah
i have 1 perma pre char, and she stays there with costume and festival hat (cat ears)

but if i could go there with my rit, i'd like to use lower armor, starter skills only, and i dont care about a hero

*my wish would be to have possibility to make perma pre with all profs*
(i even made a list with skills and locations on notepad the way i'd do that)

LDoA is special, as you only get it 1 way, and 1 thing proph has as special thing
fac, NF and eotn have some reputation (kurz/lux, sunspear+lightbringer, asura-norn-dwarf-vanguard) and proph has none of those, so we could see LDoA like that, as all others are everywhere (skill hunt, carto etc)

so: travel to have fun there? sure
travel back to get the title? no thx, not for me
(make a rit in pre to keep there? i wish)

anyway, dont you think its a bit too easy that way?
where'll be the fun?

Kada · Feb 10, 2012, 11:43 PM // 23:43

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the whole point of pre-searing that separates it from the other starter areas is that it's in the past. it's not a "here's your steep learning curve" idea like NF and Factions, it's designed to be played through and learnt core lore from.

IMO if you want LDoA then go and make a new character and get LDoA on it. With help from guildies / friends or an alt account to take you hunting, LDoA can be done in < 24 hours provided the right Vanguard quest is available (Hamnet).

Gabs88 · Feb 11, 2012, 12:15 PM // 12:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by MithranArkanere

They didn't make it so it was possible in one character, but so it was possible to retry without making a new character every time.

With LDoA, you don't need to 'retry' if you fail. You accumulate points at your own pace, and the only way to miss it is leaving pre-Searing, if you miss it, you just make another character and don't leave. There's very clear warnings before leaving if you can read.
With the old survivor, if you died, that's it, you must make another character.

Leaving pre can't be compared to dying. Dying is much more likely to happen, because lag hits happen.

Really old characters were always left out of this. I got several closing on 80-81 months and there was no LDOA title when they left pre. No survivor either for that sake.

In other words youre speaking of something you don't know jack shit about so don't pretend you do.

This title should be made account wide, problem solved. Yeah this would mean some Elonian and Canthan characters will have it too, but who says they didnt visit Ascalon before the searing?

MithranArkanere · Feb 11, 2012, 12:54 PM // 12:54

I do know. And you'll know too if you read what devs say. You know, comments in the wiki and interviews and such.

Kimmes was added mainly so you could add titles you got in pre-Searing without leaving.

And since it can be added to the HoM, there's no need to 'go back', because it can already be added for HoM completion.

What counts for GW2 is being able to add it to the HoM, not having it in the character you want it to be.
You don't even need it for GWAMM.

The title has no effect like the lucky, wisdom, treasure hunter or reputation ones, so there's no need to have it in more characters other than showing it off.

Alay · Feb 11, 2012, 06:10 PM // 18:10

I'd like to keep pre and post isolated as they are. I rather like the flair and uniqueness of pre-searing.

If it's a really big deal to so many people to have the LDoA title visible on all their characters, just make it account wide. It's not a big deal to me, because I'm enjoying earning it on a specific characters, but if having something to show off means a lot to others, be my guest.

Just please keep them apart.